Packers chat with Pete Dougherty
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All that remains to be seen, we'll probably find some of it when he introduces his staff to the media, which I'm guessing will be next week. He also needs trusted eyes and ears in the booth upstairs. I guess it depends on whether there's a QB coach and who that is. Seems like for head coaches who call plays they often have the coordinator in the booth and the QB coach on the sideline to talk with the QB.
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Could the Packers experience in changing coaches be similar to the Bucks? The Bucks fired Jason Kidd and hired Coach Bud and now suddenly have the best record in the NBA. They only tweaked the roster slightly. I think the Packers can get a similar upgrade from McCarthy to LaFleur with only minimal roster upgrades. McCarthy just didn't understand how to utilize the talent on the roster, just like Kidd didn't know how to utilize the talent on the Bucks roster.
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I think McCarthy was/is a very good coach, it sounds like Kidd probably wasn't. But it does appear as though they got complacent and comfortable in the last several years, very hard to avoid. New England is about the only example that I can think of that's avoided it. Pittsburgh, Baltimore, they've been a lot like the Packers, probably some complacency issues there too. That's one of the reasons Walsh and Al Davis were proponents of coaches staying only about 10 years with one team. LaFleur will bring a new mindset, young and energetic, hungry. Now it's a matter of how good a coach he is, and getting Rodgers back playing at an MVP level.
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How would you compare #12 to where #4 was at a comparable stage of his career?
Lots of similarities it seems.
Both won SBs and MVPs early on, had sustained runs of great play and then went down a bit in their mid 30s. Favre recovered and played well until age 40; can AR do the same? -
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Pete,
In a recent post I mentioned McCarthy being "highly successful."
I wanted to underscore the fact that a SB-winning coach will become egotistic -- perhaps less willing to change previously successful ways.
I also wanted to emphasize that Thompson was entering a do-nothing phase -- where he essentially drafted-n-delegated, and little else.
My point was to say that all of this happened on Murphy's watch.
While the media pick nits about a coach/QB controversy -- Murphy watched it all unfold as Titletown burned.
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I think he is getting a lot of scrutiny. Did you see Tom Silverstein's column on our website late last week? That was one of his main points, that Murphy has to take full ownership because he's hired the GM and head coach, and he's the head of football operations.
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Pete, Got a question from left field. How about offering The Special Teams coaching position to Joe Philbin? I’m not aware that he’s ever coached special teams but he has a wealth of football coaching experience and special teams is all football. He is well respected on the team by both management and the players and I understand he has 2 years left on a guaranteed contract with Packers.
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Hi Pete. You wrote about how the Packers should purse Jared Cook, a 32 year old TE. Isn't that just repeating what they have done the last 2 seasons with Graham and Bennett? Maybe if their isn't an opportunity to use both 1st round picks to trade up, the 2nd 1st round pick could be used on a TE or a trade for a TE?
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On the surface, yes, and I still have the same question. Just to be clear, I didn't really advocate signing him but did quote a scout whom I know well and highly respect that he thinks Cook is worth signing for at least one more year, that he can still run and had an excellent season, and that if the scout were with Oakland he'd put the franchise tag on him (the TE tag isn't that expensive). I was very much surprised to hear the scout say that for the reason you cite, it seems like it would be repeating the same mistake. But it sounds like Cook is aging much better than Graham and Bennett. That said, I'm guessing the Packers won't go after Cook, but you never know. Regardless, agree completely that TE should be a draft priority, they need to get a young, talented guy in to develop. I've heard the TE group isn't great at the very top, as in for first-round talent, but if there's not a guy there in the late 20s, maybe there will be one in the second round.
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I suspect he's read-heard some of that. I agree that he dominated the press conference too much, but I disagree with the criticism for the opening monologue. I thought he showed an uncommon level of transparency about the search, which is a benefit for Packers fan to get a peak in that window and an idea of his thought process. It was long -- I think around 10 minutes -- but provided a lot more info than most teams would have provided, obviously way more than Thompson would have provided. That's important, especially for this organization with its public ownership setup, so I think he should be commended for that.
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First off sounds like this is a really good draft for DL (both inside and outside), one of the scouts I talked to this week said there could be 10 among the first 40 picks. But let's say what you suggest happens, I'm thinking the next priority would be OL. There's always the possibility of best player available if there's a guy still on the board that they think is really special.
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When teams bring in FA players for a visit, especially early in free agency, if the guy leaves without signing then he's probably signing elsewhere. I don't know if it's the same for hiring coaches, but if it is than Rizzi leaving town is a sign he's going elsewhere. I don't know much about Pollack. But the ST hire is big, that's an important position and one that's really, really difficult to coach. Seems like so few do it really well, a lot of moving parts, a job where the first order is the old medical oath: First, do no harm.
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Hi Pete. With Mark Murphy now functioning more like an meddlesome owner than the traditional role played by Bob Harlan et al, have you heard any rumors of push back or questioning coming from board/executive committee? Is that too opaque of a group to get any feel for? Or is it a "well this is his team now, and if it doesn't work then he has to go" thing?
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I have not heard of any push back from the executive committee and have to think that they're on board with what he's done, because they have the power to stop it if they were against it. But as mentioned earlier, Murphy has put himself directly on the line. If LaFleur doesn't succeed, Murphy can't say that the GM made a bad hire. Murphy made this hire (and hired the GM), so the success or failure will be his.
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I don't have any inside info on this, so it's just my opinion and best guess. I'd think they'll for sure cut Perry, he just can't stay healthy and they'll pick up about $3M in cap room (he's set to make $10.7M in salary and bonuses, but prorated bonuses from '20 and '21 will accelerate to this year's cap, meaning net gain of about $3M on cap). I could see them offering Matthews a contract for, I don't know, $5M or $6M, and play him inside more.
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I'd let Cobb walk, cut Perry and probably Bulaga, he's a good player but his body is just breaking down, not sure he can stay on the field, that back injury has to be a concern. I'd bring back Tramon Williams for another year. He's ancient for a DB 36 in March but can play CB and safety, a great veteran for guys to observe on how to be a pro. I'd cut ties with all the TEs except Tonyan. Those are the main things that come to mind. If you have any specific guys you're thinking of, let me know.
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I don't know the answer to either of those. I'd think Pettine would have a lot of say on defensive coaches, it's his system. He and LaFleur have the same agent (Trace Armstrong) so that presumably will help with communication between the two. The one reason I could see LaFleur choosing a guy for the defensive staff if there's a coach he's worked with who's available and LaFleur thinks he's a potential coordinator down the road, then he might want to groom the guy. Regardless, LaFleur has final say, it's his coaching staff, but I have to think if Pettine wants a guy he's probably going to get him.
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Thompson's drafts came up short the last few years. There were some good picks -- Kenny Clark is about as good as you can hope to get picking at the bottom of the first round. But a few too many misses and not quite enough really good players. He also didn't adjust and use free agency as a fill-in, as other teams have done in the last five to 10 years as they've learned to manage their salary caps better. That was an avenue to incrementally improve a couple positions that he just didn't use. But I also don't doubt that complacency had set in with the coaching staff, it's just so hard to avoid. Although it had to be a big blow to McCarthy, getting fired probably was good for him too. He can start anew, and maybe he'll be like Andy Reid and be revitalized when he goes to a new team -- I'm assuming he'll get a job next year.
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I don't know what Matthews' expectations are or what his market will be -- all it takes is one team that thinks it can get a lot out of him as a part-time pass rusher and he'd be in business. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd like to return to the West Coast, he's from Southern California. I don't know where Cobb will be playing but my guess is not with the Packers. I just don't know that there will be any pass rushers available in free agency. A scout this week said he wouldn't tag Dee Ford if he were KC, so maybe Ford will be available, though costly I'm sure. I still wonder if they'll make a run at Le'Veon Bell. If LaFleur wants someone like he had in LA with Gurley, Bell would be that guy. But LaFleur might be just as happy with a really fast back, like Kyle Shanahan has in SF, and have outside zone runs be a basis of the offense, with a lot of the passing game working off that. In that case, paying big money to Bell wouldn't make much sense. This is all speculation on my part.
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I don't think they're a dime a dozen, that's a really important job, it's basically coaching a team within the team. Campen by all indications is a good coach, the title Cleveland gave him (assistant head coach-OL I think it is, something like that). But I'm sure LaFleur is looking for someone who knows something about his system and the way he runs it, that's why he's interviewing the SF assistant OL coach, Stenavich, who works for Shanahan. That's the same system LaFleur runs.
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Either of those, especially CB. One thing I've learned in the last few years, you can't have enough decent CBs. And if they move one of their CBs to safety (Jackson? Breeland if they re-sign him) then they'll definitely need another CB. But with all the passing in today's game, you have to guys who can cover, and with injuries and nickel and dime personnel, that means going several guys deep at CB.
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It depends on whether LaFleur goes Shanahan or McVay -- McVay has Gurley, so it's a little different than what Shanahan does. Aaron Jones fits either, I think, but his health is so shaky (three MCL tears in 13 months) they can't count on him carrying the load. As mentioned earlier, Shanahan likes really fast RBs because he does a lot of outside zone, and he needs fast backs to get outside and stretch the defense. Jamaal Williams is an NFL-caliber back and good in the passing game and a guy you like to have on your team, but as far as a pure runner, he's just OK, a power guy.
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Hey Pete, Could you help me understand why people are so high on King? I live in an area where I don't get to see many games, so I'm sure I'm missing something. All I see is a guy who has one measly interception in his two year career (during which he has missed 17 games), but we're supposed to think he's the second coming of Richard Sherman...