OK, let's dive right in. Interesting way to put it. That's a player personnel adage that goes back at least to Branch Rickey and very possibly before him. I guess the one thing that's different is with players the decline is steep, while with a front-office executive it's probably slower. But if Murphy had sensed that Thompson was slowing down a couple years ago, then yeah, your point is a good one.
I did. In retrospect, that was a sign of the change in structure to come. Because it would be strange to have McCarthy interview someone who would then come in and be his full-fledged boss.
Not much. Sounds like McCarthy is going to interview Fangio and maybe Pettine. Don't know if he's looking into Gus Bradley. I'd think all three would be really good candidates.
It sure sounds like he plans to be more aggressive in looking into free agents and trades. I'd think that would include receivers and tight ends.
Yeah, it is inevitable in any human endeavor. That's just the way we are. Look at all the success in New England yet the issues that have come up, even if there was some exaggeration I don't doubt that there are issues there. But all of the changes are a sign that Thompson had become less engaged in the overall operating than he needed to be.
McCarthy might not know that Fangio is the top choice, he probably wants to talk to Pettine (and maybe Bradley?) to gauge which one is the top choice. I don't know that McCarthy knows any of those guys, at least well enough to know who he wants to hire. So he needs to meet with them to find out.
It makes you wonder if Murphy thinks Gutekunst needs some seasoning before being given total control. That's at least a possibility.
I can't say for sure but am inclined to think it's more the former. At least in the past he never gave off the feeling that he wanted to run the team, but now he basically is even if it's in a supervisory role. So I can't say for sure that after being here for 10 years he didn't decide he wanted to be more involved in football, that's not a stretch considering his football background. But I tend to think it's more of a way to keep everybody happy. He didn't bring in anybody above Ball or McCarthy, so they have to feel good about that. Now it's up to Murphy to heard the cats.
No, Murphy didn't share any examples. I suspect we'll hear of some as time goes on. Some of it could be McCarthy's dissatisfaction with Thompson being draft-oriented to the near exclusion of other personnel avenues. I'm sure that came up in his meetings with McCarthy over the past week. I don't doubt there were plenty of other things too.
No idea, haven't seen or heard any comments. I suspect Rodgers and other well established guys are excited. Everybody else is probably excited and nervous. That's probably good for the Packers. Gutekunst made a point of saying he wants the players to feel a little uneasy to help push them.
I think everything's in play. They have a lot of picks too -- probably 12 (their own seven, a 7th-rounder from a trade with Buffalo, and probably four compensatory picks). Right tackle too.
I'd think the draft is the best place to address that. They don't play their fastest receivers, Davis and Janis.
I have to think King had surgery but not sure I've seen anything reported on it. Bulaga is a tough one. There's a pretty decent chance he won't be ready for the start of the regular season, so then he'd probably be on PUP and miss half the games. So it depends on how his rehab goes. But that's usually 10 to 11 or even 12 month recovery, especially for big players. So that's tough to predict. Also depends on what they do in the offseason, if they sign a possible starter or draft one.
Mine's not a particularly informed opinion, but I have asked around a little bit on these guys. I don't know anything about Pettine but it sounds like Fangio and Bradley are good candidates. For some reason I'm intrigued by Bradley, that Seattle system seems to fit the current NFL because it's a little simpler, so it's easier to teach with all the roster turnover. But you have to have players too. McCarthy hired Capers in part because he said it was harder to game plan and play against the 3-4 scheme. But that was nine years ago, maybe something has changed in his mind.
Sounds like he's going to meet individually with McCarthy every week. He didn't say if he will have any kind of scheduled regular meeting with Ball and Gutekunst, or if it will be part of their daily interaction.
I don't think anybody knows that except Gutekunst and maybe Murphy, and it might be more of a case by case thing than philosophical. Depends who the one big-money guy is, and what position he plays.
Yeah, it's pretty much a given Wolf is gone. Sounds like he's going to Cleveland. Can't say I blame him. They blocked him from interviewing for a GM job or two, then when it came time to hire a GM of their own chose somebody else. In-house the next pro scout on the chart is John Wojciechowski, who's director of pro personnel. The also have three pro scouts: Chad Brinker, Richmond Williams and Luke Benuska. Gutekunst said yesterday he also has a big pool of contacts in the league he can hire from. He was a college scout for a long time, so I'm sure he met pretty much everybody in scouting over that time.
That might be how he views it, though he didn't put it that way. And if that's his thinking, I'd have to say I don't think it's a good move. He definitely knows the game, obviously more than any of the owners in the league. But he's never worked as a scout or coach. So I don't think he should be the ultimate decision maker on football matters despite his background. He at least gave no indication he's going to tell Gutekunst to go after any particular player, or McCarthy to do anything in particular as a game planner. He made it sound like he wants to know what's going on in those departments so that everybody knows what everyone else is doing. But maybe he just wanted to be more involved in football, too. Maybe he'll try to influence things more as time goes on.
Not that I've seen reported.
If I'm remembering right, there's only one other GM job open, Houston. That seems like an uncommonly small number of GM jobs for an offseason, seems like it's usually at least four or more. I'd agree that it's not like Green Bay would be a bad place for him to be, and I don't doubt that Gutekunst would give him real responsibility and influence. And yeah, with Rodgers here there's a great chance to win big, which helps everybody's career. But I've tried to look at it from Wolf's point of view too. The Packers denied him a chance to interview with Detroit two years ago, and he reportedly was the leading candidate for that job. Then when the Packers job opened, they leapfrogged him and hired a guy who was a rung below him on the command chain. So there's a really good chance he feels spurned and mistreated. And he has options elsewhere. The thing with Cleveland is, they have all those draft picks, and if they can get a QB this year they're off an running. Turn that around and they're all heroes.
He has been given more input, but I'd say that makes him more responsible than ever for the performance on the field.
Yeah, I don't think he was as attuned to Thompson's receding engagement over the last couple years as he should have been. Murphy seemed to suggest that he picked up on some of these things this season but that the interview process revealed the depth of the communication gaps.