Packers chat with Pete Dougherty
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Happy Draft Day, Pete!
I'm sure you're being bombarded with "Who ya got?" questions, so I won't ask you that. Instead, I predict that Gute trades down a few spots from 12 and packages some sort of deal that acquires an additional 2nd. Have you heard about any trade scenarios that are likely? Have a great one! -
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I'm thinking there's a chance at least one of Sweat and Bush will be there at 12, though in part it depends on how many QBs go in the top 11. With Sweat it's all medical. How big a risk do the Packers think his heart condition is? I talked with two teams yesterday who said they considered it a low risk.
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Hey Pete, thanks for taking the time to answer questions, especially on draft day! Well, we're here. Evaluations are done. Boards created. Made me think about about the Raiders and them reportedly sending scouts home early amd throughout the draft until it's over. Have the Packers ever done such a thing? I mean, don't teams want their scouts there for insight? Can't be a good recipe for success for the Raiders. Bet Gutey wouldn't send home his scouts, aren't they like a talent information lifelines?
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Hi Pete, so what made you lean towards an ILB for your packer pick? I thought you didn't think the ILB was a high value pick. Well actually if you think about it, it could be one of the missing pieces of the make over of this defense. The outside LB have been changed to give my outside pressure. The outside CBs will be better this year, just need a safety and i agree with you that Josh Jackson should be given a chance there he was a ball hawk in college and a touch slow for a CB. With Blake Martinez the only ILB and Burks still and unknown. Getting a Bush or White at ILB would create inside pass rush by a 4.4 guy and be able to go sideline to sideline and also be a playmaker and leader on the defense. So I would agree with you on that and if not available Jonah Williams would be the pick because the packers like multi position linemen. second first round irv smith TE alabama. Do you think Thornhill will be there at 44 to complete the secondary?
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You're right, the position value gave me pause. But this guy runs like a DB (4.43), which is unusually fast for that position, so he's the rare, true three-down linebacker who can cover backs and TEs. He just seemed like the most talented guy I thought would be available, though almost all the mock drafts I looked at this morning had him going at No. 10 or 11, and Sweat in the teams or later. I still think someone might bite on Sweat earlier, and I'm still thinking at least three QBs will go in the top 11, that teams will trade up to get them. As for Smith at No. 30, the thing that I wonder about is his height, he's only 6-2 3/8, that's pretty short for a tight end. Gutekunst likes big receivers, and really, that's the point of the TE position is to get size and catch radius for going over the middle. So I'm not sure he'll be to the Packers' liking. Not saying they won't take him, but I wonder about that. I'm thinking it's kind of shaky whether Thornhill makes it to 44. Might have to grab him at 30 if they want him.
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Hey Pete, thanks for the time. I saw you metion Devin Bush may be a nice pick at 12 and I agree, I love his skill set. However, one guy I don't think a lot of people are giving enough attention to for #12 is Christian Wilkins from Clemson. Mike Daniels is a free agent after this season, and Wilkins is worthy replacement, who deserves top 15 consideration. He's also a great locker room/character guy, leader type. He won the "academic" Heisman last season as the best student athlete. But, the guy is super talented. He's a "Packer People" type player. Thoughts?
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Pete, the Doctor has cancelled all appointments today as the Draft has arrived! Time for all the smoke to clear! It's also time for you to take your dancing shoes off and make the pick . I'm going with the President Bush out of Michigan. Anytime you can get a guy who has a beer named after them I say go for it . i also see them trading up or down at 30 and grabbing Fant if he is available or an OT. The wild card might fall with Washington as their owner is really wanting to trade up for a QB. If Haskins slides let's hold Mr Schneider ransome and trade him the 12. The guy is notorious for giving away the house . What say you ?
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My wife Amy seems to think the Pack selects Oliver today. She has correctly predicted the last several draft picks including last years trade . We have an ongoing bet each year and I really don't want kitchen duty again so I need your help . I'm thinking they go with Hockenson out of Iowa. Unless you have some inside scoop for me .
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This is boring, but I would be very happy with OT Taylor or OT/G Williams at #12, and then Dalton Risner OT/G at 30. Put those 2 on the right side for the next 9 years. The only way I don't take OT/G at #12 is if Josh Allen or Devin White fall to #12. I know everyone wants a TE at 12, but I don't think that is the correct play. Am I way off base?
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Hello Pete! Well D-Day (Draft Day) is finally here and enough with all this "mockery" (mock drafts) although I like your pick of Devin Bush! With the # 12 pick Green Bay should get a really good player/starter and with the # 30 pick they should be getting a probably good player/probable starter. But here's a hypothetical question for you: IF Green Bay had the
# 1 pick in this year's draft and looking at the current team and looking down the road for the next 5 years or so, who would you pick? Murray? Bosa? Or someone else? Thank you. -
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It's true that there's a cap/financial advantage to having a young starting QB (if the QB is good), but more important than that is having a good QB, period. There's much truth to the saying that the hardest time to find a QB is when you need one. So you get them when you can, within reason. This season would be a tad early for the Packers, in my opinion, but not outlandishly early.
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Sweat was the hardest guy for me to get a handle on. Everything I read the last couple days suggested he's really dropping, but the two teams I talked to about his medical grade said they rated him a low risk, and his heart condition didn't affect their grade on him. So that made me think somebody in the top 11 is going to be fine with him and take him. I could very well be wrong. It does sound like the WR Metcalf won't go until late R1 or maybe even R2 after being projected as a possible top 10 pick after the combine.
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High Pete! I'd like to make a couple of points about the Packers first rd. I agree with you. A TE at #12 is too high, perhaps at #30 or #44 but not #12. Second, they did a great job in FA rebuilding the defense. In that vein I think they should continue doing that by drafting either D. White or D. Bush. If they have to trade up to get one of those excellent playmakers they should do it. The need an impactful player in the middle of that defense. Think R. Shazier, D. Jones or R. Smith. I hope that is the pick!
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Is an enlarged heart really a huge concern in terms of an injury risk? Sweat seems like the real deal, but I don't know how to consider this concern. I get that King fell because of injuries causing him to miss action. But how does a team measure a heart condition? Is the risk he is forced to retire?
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I tried to do some research on it yesterday but didn't have enough time to really, really dive in. From what I could tell there are different levels of severity/concern, because though it's rare it can cause death in young athletes. But I think it depends on the symptoms and severity, and for many it doesn't prevent them from playing. A source told me yesterday that Mississippi State discovered it when he enrolled there in '17, and its doctors cleared him to play, and he had no issues. From what I was told he needs only to get it checked once a year (I don't know what checked means, but I'm assuming a thorough testing and maybe a scan). I'm sure retirement is one risk. Another is death. Some teams simply don't want to risk the liability if something catastrophic happened.
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Pete how much do you think Gute believes it’s a “big man” game? It concerns me because I’m of the belief TT often values size over athleticism, especially on D which lead to the lack of talent over the years (guys like M Neal and D Jones are perfect examples). I’d hate to see them pass on someone like Bush because of his size when he could be a difference maker
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It sounds like he very much believes it. He said as much at the owners meetings when asked about what he likes about big receivers. And from what I've heard he's very much been a proponent of size for years. That said, he did draft Jaire Alexander, who's a shade under the 5-10 1/2 height requirement for DBs that the Packers generally have gone by dating back to Ron Wolf. When I was trying to predict Gutekunst's first-rounder last year I dismissed Alexander as a possibility because of his height. Yet Gutekunst took him. So that left me open to thinking he might take Bush, especially because you're just not going to find an ILB who can really run who has height. If they're 6-2 and can run like that, they're almost surely going to be pass rushers.
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Savage was not on the list of 25 visits our Tom Silverstein uncovered (teams get 30 total). I noticed the testing was similar to Collins too, and Savage's 4.36 40 jumped out to me. That's why I picked him over Thornhill for the Packers at 30, it's always good to have a safety who can outrun his mistakes. But that was just a guess, he's only 5-10 3/4 and maybe the Packers prefer Thornhill, who's also a ballhawk and is almost as fast (4.42 I think) and his a little taller (6-0 1/4). I'd think either of the two would appeal to the Packers, because besides the good physical testing they also appear to have football instincts and ball skills.
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