Packers-Lions Monday postgame chat with Ryan Wood

Oct. 8 transcript

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Hey folks, welcome to our Monday postgame chat. Lots to talk about after a sloppy loss in Detroit. Let's get to your questions.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:02:35 PM
Any obvious reason for the missed kicks? The snap? The hold? Or just plain bad kicks?

by Mike 10/8/2018 5:02:59 PM
Sure looked like it was just bad kicks. On replays, thought the operation looked fine. Mason Crosby said as much yesterday. Just a kicker who couldn't split the uprights. Such a bizarre thing to see, especially considering it was indoors.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:03:53 PM
The Packers seem to have completely whiffed on getting Rodgers a play making TE. First they let Cooke walk. Then they signed Bennett who as it turned out couldn’t and didn’t want to play. Now Graham seems to be just “a guy” at this stage of his career. Who evaluates the talent of these free agents? 3 bad decisions in 3 years?

by Lrc13 10/8/2018 5:04:23 PM
Yeah, the decision to let Jared Cook walk looks worse and worse. Still think the verdict is out on Jimmy Graham. (He's done far more early in the season than Cook did in 2016.) But all the constantly moving pieces around Rodgers isn't good for any QB.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:05:53 PM
It appears again this year the ham string issue is more previland with apackers thanother teams Training staff does too much power work and not enough stretching

by Bob 10/8/2018 5:06:26 PM
As a team, the Packers are actually quite healthy. Their lone soft-tissue injuries are Randall Cobb and Jaire Alexander. Plenty of teams are far worse off with injuries. Frankly, that only makes the mediocrity worse. It's not like a cavalry is coming.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:07:34 PM
I don't understand the spotty play of Aaron Rodgers. That, combined with an incomphrehensible bad day from Crosby and special teams, doomed us. How can we have a chance against the Rams et al unless we play better? Safety play continues to be an issue, but I don't get the sense that it's as much personnel as coaching. What do you think?

by markgeiger9420@comcast.net 10/8/2018 5:08:43 PM
Aaron Rodgers' spotty play is rare, but it's at least understandable. Sure looks to me a like a QB who hasn't practiced much. Crosby's bad day was almost inexplicable; not like he was dealing with 20 mph winds. You're right about safety play. Overall, I agree the Packers did not look like a well-coached team in Detroit. Way too many sloppy, self-inflicted mistakes to win any game, much less a road trip to a division rival. That has to be most frustrating.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:10:42 PM
Ryan, I think Vic Ketchum and Bob McGinn may have been right. Why did the Packers sign a new contract with Rodgers? He was committed for two more years and could have been franchised for two more. The way he is playing there may be a permanent problem with accuracy caused by the collarbone injury. What is your take?

by Old Man 10/8/2018 5:11:17 PM
People actually said the Packers shouldn't extend Rodgers? That seems ... surprising. Also ill advised. He's a top player in the game at the most important position. Five weeks doesn't change that.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:11:55 PM
I never been a believer of a player speaking out about the coach. But, that game plan once again it so puzzling. Playing the Worst run defense in the league and jones stands on the sideline averaging over 5 yds a carry. Two starting WR’s out and we use Monty as a rb. I don’t get it. And how do you slow down a pass rush. “Run the Ball!” I’m completely lost. With that plan we were primed to lose. Am I off base.

by Rad 10/8/2018 5:12:39 PM
At some point, the Packers need to come to grips with the fact Aaron Jones is their best running back, and quite possibly their best offensive skill player. In a different system, he'd be a brand-named star. How they can't get him the ball more escapes me. I get Mike McCarthy's long-term view of keeping Jones fresh for December. I also get the Packers were in a 24-0 hole. But at what point are you in a hole because you aren't giving the ball to your best player? That's what tends to happen when your best player doesn't get the ball; you fail to make plays. Keeping Jones fresh is important, but I have to think a professional running back of his caliber can handle, conservatively, 15 carries each week.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:14:58 PM
TT was finally held responsible. When will MM and MM be? This team performs below its capability year after year.

by FL 10/8/2018 5:15:12 PM
I think this is becoming a fairer question to ask. Especially after Sunday's debacle. The Packers just did not look like a well-coached team. That has to grind McCarthy. Overall, it's too early to know where this season will go, even if it's trending in the wrong direction. If it continues down this path, the hot-seat calls will only gain credibility.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:16:38 PM
Ryan, this is a talented team, and yet each game we find a new way to underachieve, where do we point the finger?

by Bamabadger64 10/8/2018 5:16:52 PM
I'm not sure we can say this is a talented team. A talent quarterback, yes. But where's everything else? The Packers have no edge rush, their cornerbacks are greener than their home jerseys, and so are their receivers. Lots of holes on the roster, too. I'm not sure that's Brian Gutekunst's fault, either. He was left with a lot of upgrades to make.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:18:01 PM
Was the first Q punt that maybe did or did not touch King and maybe did or did not touch the Lions defender first- ruled correctly? Seems like such a momentum changing call right off the bat...

by Bill 10/8/2018 5:19:11 PM
Hard to say who it touched. I never saw a good replay angle. Ultimately, the call on the field was that it hit Kevin King, and I think it was right not to overturn the call on the field. Didn't see anything that definitively proved otherwise. You're right about it being a huge call early in the game. Things really snowballed from there.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:20:16 PM
People keep saying this is a talented team. After Rodgers, is it? Really? Who are other teams dying to get. Bahktiari, Jones, Adams and who exactly? They are mediocre. Their record reflects it doesn't it?

by Bo Ryan Braun 10/8/2018 5:20:38 PM
I'd disagree that David Bakhtiari, Davante Adams and Aaron Jones are mediocre. They're no the problem. The problem is you need more than a handful of good players. The Packers don't seem to.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:21:14 PM
Why not feature Jones in the same role as Kamara ?

by Harry 10/8/2018 5:21:21 PM
I mean, yeah. That's a great question. I don't have a good answer.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:21:39 PM
Clinton Dix once again nowhere to be found. 50 yards off the line of scrimmage and absent on deep balls. Our safety's are the worst in the NFL

by Kevin 10/8/2018 5:22:09 PM
He's having such a strange season. Really good statistically, but his play has been lacking. Not sure if the Packers have the NFL's worst safety play, but it's clearly got to improve.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:22:39 PM
Do you consider yourself a Journalist or Entertainer?

by Ralph 10/8/2018 5:22:43 PM
Journalist. The two pillars of such are to inform and entertain.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:23:02 PM
Odds that Pettine finishes this season as the HC?

by Tom 10/8/2018 5:23:10 PM
Very poor. The Packers aren't making an in-season move at head coach.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:23:19 PM
I meant that Bahktiari, Adams and Jones are 3 guys other teams want. Everyone else, not so much. Sorry for confusion

by Bo Ryan Braun 10/8/2018 5:24:06 PM
Oops. Sorry if I read that wrong.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:24:12 PM
So any revised predictions on the Packers final W/L record this year?

by Lare 10/8/2018 5:24:21 PM
I mean, they're in a lot of trouble. The Packers needed to rack up wins in September and October. That didn't happen. I think November is going to be messy. They might benefit from playing in a suspect NFC North, but it's very plausible at this point they could miss the playoffs. At the very least, they have to play significantly better.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:25:10 PM
A SB run is a long shot it seems with this roster, why not play for next year? A premier pass rusher and better than average safety could really change this team's chances.

by Tom 10/8/2018 5:25:26 PM
Two reasons: you don't punt on a season in Aaron Rodgers' prime (he's capable of doing some ridiculous things), and there's no guarantee they'd get a premier pass rusher and above-average safety anyway (the draft is a crap shoot).

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:26:40 PM
Pretty poor performance overall by the Packers yesterday. So how far up the Packers management structure is the seat starting to get warm?

by Lare 10/8/2018 5:27:58 PM
Head coach? I think Brian Gutekunst is fine. Same for Mark Murphy.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:28:12 PM
Ryan, fans were 2 or 3 years ahead of the writers in calling for Capers' head. Should we start calling or McCarthy's termination? The league seems to be passing him by...especially the NFC North.

by Scott 10/8/2018 5:28:35 PM
Careful, you might break your arm patting yourself on the back.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:28:44 PM
Any reports on kickers being brought in? A team is judged by their record in December, but no one is going to care about December if you don't make it through the first 3 months with a reasonable record.

by Tom 10/8/2018 5:28:53 PM
I don't see the Packers moving in a different direction at kicker after one bad game. Mason Crosby has bought himself a lot of good will. He's a proven commodity in the playoffs. That accounts for a lot.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:29:30 PM
Two road games in the books and in both the Packers didn't look ready to answer the opening bell. To what do you attribute that?

by Bruce 10/8/2018 5:29:45 PM
Usually, it starts with coaching. I don't see why this would be any different.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:29:59 PM
This team really shows how far we have regressed in the last couple of years under TT lack luster drafts

by Harry 10/8/2018 5:30:26 PM
I mean, Harry, you're not wrong.

by Ryan Wood 10/8/2018 5:30:34 PM