Hey folks, welcome to our Monday postgame chat. Lots to talk about after a sloppy loss in Detroit. Let's get to your questions.
Sure looked like it was just bad kicks. On replays, thought the operation looked fine. Mason Crosby said as much yesterday. Just a kicker who couldn't split the uprights. Such a bizarre thing to see, especially considering it was indoors.
Yeah, the decision to let Jared Cook walk looks worse and worse. Still think the verdict is out on Jimmy Graham. (He's done far more early in the season than Cook did in 2016.) But all the constantly moving pieces around Rodgers isn't good for any QB.
As a team, the Packers are actually quite healthy. Their lone soft-tissue injuries are Randall Cobb and Jaire Alexander. Plenty of teams are far worse off with injuries. Frankly, that only makes the mediocrity worse. It's not like a cavalry is coming.
Aaron Rodgers' spotty play is rare, but it's at least understandable. Sure looks to me a like a QB who hasn't practiced much. Crosby's bad day was almost inexplicable; not like he was dealing with 20 mph winds. You're right about safety play. Overall, I agree the Packers did not look like a well-coached team in Detroit. Way too many sloppy, self-inflicted mistakes to win any game, much less a road trip to a division rival. That has to be most frustrating.
People actually said the Packers shouldn't extend Rodgers? That seems ... surprising. Also ill advised. He's a top player in the game at the most important position. Five weeks doesn't change that.
At some point, the Packers need to come to grips with the fact Aaron Jones is their best running back, and quite possibly their best offensive skill player. In a different system, he'd be a brand-named star. How they can't get him the ball more escapes me. I get Mike McCarthy's long-term view of keeping Jones fresh for December. I also get the Packers were in a 24-0 hole. But at what point are you in a hole because you aren't giving the ball to your best player? That's what tends to happen when your best player doesn't get the ball; you fail to make plays. Keeping Jones fresh is important, but I have to think a professional running back of his caliber can handle, conservatively, 15 carries each week.
I think this is becoming a fairer question to ask. Especially after Sunday's debacle. The Packers just did not look like a well-coached team. That has to grind McCarthy. Overall, it's too early to know where this season will go, even if it's trending in the wrong direction. If it continues down this path, the hot-seat calls will only gain credibility.
I'm not sure we can say this is a talented team. A talent quarterback, yes. But where's everything else? The Packers have no edge rush, their cornerbacks are greener than their home jerseys, and so are their receivers. Lots of holes on the roster, too. I'm not sure that's Brian Gutekunst's fault, either. He was left with a lot of upgrades to make.
Hard to say who it touched. I never saw a good replay angle. Ultimately, the call on the field was that it hit Kevin King, and I think it was right not to overturn the call on the field. Didn't see anything that definitively proved otherwise. You're right about it being a huge call early in the game. Things really snowballed from there.
I'd disagree that David Bakhtiari, Davante Adams and Aaron Jones are mediocre. They're no the problem. The problem is you need more than a handful of good players. The Packers don't seem to.
I mean, yeah. That's a great question. I don't have a good answer.
He's having such a strange season. Really good statistically, but his play has been lacking. Not sure if the Packers have the NFL's worst safety play, but it's clearly got to improve.
Journalist. The two pillars of such are to inform and entertain.
Very poor. The Packers aren't making an in-season move at head coach.
Oops. Sorry if I read that wrong.
I mean, they're in a lot of trouble. The Packers needed to rack up wins in September and October. That didn't happen. I think November is going to be messy. They might benefit from playing in a suspect NFC North, but it's very plausible at this point they could miss the playoffs. At the very least, they have to play significantly better.
Two reasons: you don't punt on a season in Aaron Rodgers' prime (he's capable of doing some ridiculous things), and there's no guarantee they'd get a premier pass rusher and above-average safety anyway (the draft is a crap shoot).
Head coach? I think Brian Gutekunst is fine. Same for Mark Murphy.
Careful, you might break your arm patting yourself on the back.
I don't see the Packers moving in a different direction at kicker after one bad game. Mason Crosby has bought himself a lot of good will. He's a proven commodity in the playoffs. That accounts for a lot.
Usually, it starts with coaching. I don't see why this would be any different.
I mean, Harry, you're not wrong.