Probably not. Not sure you can take at face value anything these guys say about these things. Not saying he doesn't mean it, but how are we to know? Nick Saban was absolutely not leaving the Dolphins for Alabama.
I doubt it will work out that way but it wouldn't be that much different than taking CBs with their first two picks this year.
A new coach very well might overhaul that staff, it's part of the coaching staff. I don't know what Gutekunst's thoughts are on that, it's obviously something they'd discuss in an interview. I thought the Packers were pretty healthy for most of the season. The last couple weeks have been tougher, but this is the NFL, almost every team goes through this. I remember seeing in camp and early in the season, for instance, the Eagles were losing guys left and right. If I remember right in one of their early games they were missing several of their top DBs.
Agreed on Bell and Bulaga. Bulaga has just been so beaten up the last few years, his body is giving out. Taylor hasn't played as well as he did the last two years, that's for sure. Maybe he's hurt and not saying, I'm not sure. He's scheduled to make $4M next year, so I'm sure he'll get a shot to bounce back.
Jimmy Johnson immediately comes to mind, but that's about it. I'd have to think about it for a while to come up with others. If I were doing the hiring I'd be strongly inclined to go with someone who's coached in the NFL, for that very reason. Never say never, but I'd take a lot of convincing to hire a college guy who's never worked in the NFL.
Just not quite explosive enough to beat starting-caliber players very often. Has a great motor and certainly did well against backups in the preseason, but that appears to be his ceiling.
The Senior Bowl scouting is done the week leading up to the game, which will be played Jan. 26. The Packers will have their new coach by then, so I don't think the search will interfere with his scouting all that much.
Wouldn't rule that out. He had to know that tweeting that out might cost him his job.
There always are fans/observers who want the coach fired. I wouldn't be surprised if there are New England fans who think Belichick is slipping and should be canned. When Holmgren was here I got letters from people saying he should be fired, and he was an outstanding coach. Same thing on Wolf, who's now in the Hall of Fame. A lot of the chat questions today are from people who want to get rid of Rodgers. Maybe it will turn out they're right, but if Rodgers plays great again in the future, it's not like the people calling for his trade now will suffer for saying he should have been traded. It's easy to call for firings, we're all so prone to being prisoner of the moment. But none of us can see the future, I thought McCarthy was a good coach. I still think he has. Maybe he's lost some of his edge, that I don't know. He'd definitely run his course here. It would have been really hard in my mind to justify firing him years ago. Maybe after last season, if you subscribe to the theory that a coach shouldn't stay with a team for much more than a decade. But before then? Can't say I'm seeing that. You keep firing guys at the first sign of struggle, you end up being Cleveland.
Yeah, I have to say I think he has some promise. Don't know if he's a starter in the making or not, just haven't seen enough to know. But I think there's something to work with there. Have to think he'll get more playing time in the final month.
I get your point but suggest this to give you some perspective: Go to drafthistory.com and look up several teams' drafts over the same period. It's an eye-opener. You don't realize how few players turn out to be good or great until you do that. Everybody misses on a lot of picks. That's the truth. Now you'll find a couple drafts where a team hits -- Seattle had a couple really good ones in 2010-11, around there. I thought Thompson's early drafts were really good, a couple standouts (Rodgers, Collins, Matthews) and a lot of good players (Jennings, Nelson, Sitton, Lang, Raji). Thompson's more recent drafts were thin, no getting around that. But check out other teams' drafts, or go back and look at the first rounds of the last decades. You might be stunned at all the missed picks.
He hasn't played well this year, and he played somewhat similarly (better than now, but not well) in the second half of '15 through the first half of '16 before he exploded in the second half of '16 and carried that team down the stretch. I think he was playing pretty well before he got hurt last year. So he's kind of been all over the map for the last three years relative to his immense talent. So it does make you wonder what's been going on over that time, are there environmental circumstances that played into it? I think back to Favre, he had his ups and downs too in his early-to-mid-30s. I'm very curious to see how things go with him playing for a new coach.
If he's seriously hurt, yeah. But if not, these guys are professional players, and there are only so many games. They should play.
McDaniel deserves a good hard look because of his success in NE -- they've been a top-three scoring offense in like five of the last six years, something like that. I realize they have the greatest QB of all time, but that's still really good. But you might be right, the red flags might be too much. The question I have is did he have a good reason for pulling out of Indy? They'd need to investigate that fully. Also, why did he fail in Denver? He was really young, was that it? Or are there other issues with him? Agreed that at least on the surface this looks like a tough year to be hiring a coach. But you never know how these guys are going to pan out as head coaches. A lot of times the big-name assistants end up failing. You just don't know, same as with drafts.
Murphy is very much putting himself on the line by making this hire and operating as the head of football.
I can't say I'm a fan of it either. This is one of the things a GM should do, as Wolf said in Tom Silverstein's story, he should always have a list of potential coaches ready, and he has the contacts and the daily work in the league to keep tabs on those things.
OK, this is going to have to do it, this has been really fun and interesting, but we've gone a long time and other duties to get to. We'll still have plenty to talk about next week, same time and place, so if I didn't get to your question today, try again then. As for the Packers' '19 draft, more than the number of starters is the quality of a couple players. Yeah, it helps the Saints that Ramczyk is a starting RT immediately and that safety is a decent player and starter too, but the big thing was getting real playmakers at CB (Lattimore) and RB (Kamara). Two players of that quality, especially if one is a pass rusher, would make a huge difference for the Packers. And with that, we'll call it a chat. Thanks again everyone, very interesting times around the Packers these days. We'll have plenty to discuss next week. Until then, take care.