The new receivers coach is Luke Getsy, and he is accountable to McCarthy. We have no way of knowing what goes on behind closed doors there. McCarthy thinks Getsy is an up and comer, a young coach with a lot of promise. That said, your point is legit. They sure seem to have missed Edgar Bennett at receivers, he appeared to do a great job there, and interesting enough, he was a running back in the NFL, not a receiver. But he was really diligent about teaching and emphasizing fundamentals. But yeah, that warrants watching as the year goes on. But like I said, it's McCarthy's job to work with Getsy and set standards, etc. I don't know what goes on when they meet one on one.
Maybe. I've been wrestling with the Lacy-Shields question for a few weeks and keep going back and forth. Last week I said I'd take Lacy, this week I'm leaning your way. The decision this week to cut Knile Davis is an indication to me that they think Lacy is the guy who will be coming off IR, not Shields. So the question might be academic at this point. I have wondered all along if Shields was done for the season.
I can't say exactly, him and Thompson might be the only ones who truly know that, though a few others on staff might have a decent idea. I know Wolf always had a deal with his head coaches that he'd never give them a player they didn't want, and Thompson I believe has the same deal. Outside looking in, I'd think McCarthy would have a pretty strong say on a lot of things, like who makes the final 53, and whether to get rid of someone, and that they'd try to reach agreement as much as possible. Push comes to shove, Thompson has final say, and when it comes to free agency in the offseason it appears he's the captain there. Whatever McCarthy's feelings are, he does not complain publicly.
I'm not really qualified to answer. But in a general sense I think it's just more complex. I think there are a lot more route adjustments based on coverages, and a much bigger playbook. More techniques to learn as far as getting off jam coverage, etc. I'm guessing the route running requires more precision too.
Not much on Cook. He didn't practice yesterday and McCarthy made it sound like he won't this week, so he's out for this week. Based on what McCarthy said at his Monday press conference, Cook might have a shot at returning next week. The trade deadline passed this week, so they won't be adding anyone via that route. I wonder if they're going to use Montgomery as their third-down back the rest of the season. Starks could be back in the next few weeks, and it looks to me like Lacy will be the guy coming off IR eventually, so they will be options as well. But the chances of picking up somebody who can help aren't very good unless there's a surprise cut like Andre Rison in 1996.
Well, McCarthy tried to go with the overall coaching thing last year and it bombed because the offense tanked. So McCarthy took back the play calling late last season, and I doubt he'll ever give it up. There's pat answer to your excellent question, because these guys get head coaching jobs because they excel as a coordinator, so if they give up play calling, they're taking away one of their strengths in exchange for having a more panoramic view of the team and game. I generally don't think McCarthy is a showoff as a playcaller, but I do agree with what you suggest that he might have to abandon to a degree his desire for balance because he's got to play the cards he's dealt this season.
I have to agree with you, I'm not sure why not. Coaches are big about putting a hat on a hat, meaning having a blocker for each defender, and there's something to be said for being able to slam the ball at an opponent. But that's hard to do in the NFL, and the Packers' tight ends are poor blockers, so like you I don't see the advantage. In fact, if you go four WRs, the defense almost has to go dime to match up, so that leaves only one linebacker on the field. If you have a good receiving/blocking tight end, yeah, there's a great advantage there because of the flexibility in play calling and uncertainty for the defense, and matchup advantages. But the Packers don't have that. So I agree, spread'em out and run. It might not be ideal, but from where I'm sitting it's their best chance.
That's something to watch this week. I don't know if Tretter is going to play. Linsley is stouter, he gets more push as a run blocker than Tretter does, but Tretter probably is better at getting out to the LB level. Yeah, I think the run blocking probably gets a little better if Linsley is the center. But Tretter has been fine. If Tretter doesn't play this week and Linsley plays well, I don't know what they'd when Tretter was ready to play again.
I think many members of the media have written and said he's not been the same guy, not as explosive as he was.
I think he's played pretty well this year. He has been hurt a lot, no question, and he is paid a lot, you're right on both counts there. But he's still a really important part of the defense, and when he doesn't play they usually feel it. I guess your point my be that they might need to replace him soon, find another difference maker for that spot. Can't argue with that. Maybe they'll try to adjust his contract in the offseason.
At the time I wasn't because McCarthy spoke so highly of Getsy. But maybe they needed to hire a more experienced guy to help train him a couple more years.
A little bit with all the injuries, though right about now they went on a mini-run in '10 -- they were 3-4 and then won four straight. So there could be some similarities. I remember after they lost back-to-back games to go 8-6 I got a lot of email saying Thompson and McCarthy needed to be fired. Then they went on that run to the Super Bowl. Been getting a fair share of those emails this year, too. I've covered this league well enough to know how much things can change over the course of the season -- several times for any given team, in fact -- so I'm not ruling out that it happens again.
Yeah, that is a very dangerous injury, and he's had four concussions in the NFL, and he missed a month last season with one, and this last one happened on a relatively innocuous play. Those are all red flags.
Can't say I know for a fact, but I'd think that when Starks comes back they'll still use Montgomery there some. It's worked fairly well so far.
I've been covering this team since the early '90s and this comes up all the time, and I'm not sure I have a good answer. They really, really, really study this stuff now. They have all that GPS data for how much players expend each day, and all the timing of all the injuries. McCarthy gears most of what he does to try to get his team in optimal health. In '14, they were incredibly healthy. This year has been bad. A lot of other teams have had major injury issues -- the Bears and Colts immediately come to mind, and if we followed other teams as closely as we do the Packers, there's a pretty good chance we'd be thinking the same thing. I think a big part of it is that football is a really brutal game, and guys get hurt a lot.
Wondering the same thing myself. He doesn't have a lot of miles on him as far as playing time, but he's 30 and coming off a knee injury when he returns. There is a possibility he won't be real effective. And if that's the case then yeah, more playing time for Montgomery. Don Jackson didn't look to bad either. He does appear to run hard.
All in all, I thought Capers' game plan worked OK last week, at least for the bulk of the game. Atlanta was the No. 1 offense, and the Packers had them kicking field goals instead of scoring TDs a couple times early. But it did break down in the end. They didn't get much pressure on Ryan on that last drive, and they paid the price. So maybe they have to just play the way they were and trust the young CBs to hold up OK. Pretty risky though to get too blitz heavy.
Really not sure. He has looked much better the last two games. He's probably getting some confidence making all these catches. Maybe it's the case of Rodgers looking for him more almost by default. Maybe the short passing game fits with his skill set -- he's not a speed guy so doesn't separate downfield.
That really was a shocker. Turner is really well respected around the league, at least among the handful of coaches and scouts I talk to. It's disruptive, no question, and has to have players wondering what's going on. A lot depends on how it affects Bradford. Shurmur is a pretty accomplished guy too, and he's been a coordinator and even interim coach in the past, so he should be up to the task. That helps. A lot of it comes down to Bradford, and also if Shurmur can find ways to compensate for the major issues at tackle better than they have the last couple weeks.
At times, yeah, depending on circumstances. He probably should have been on the field for that final drive against Atlanta, though I'd have had him in there for Ryan, not Martinez.
He was a limited participant in practice yesterday, don't know if he's doing the same or more today. So that suggests he has a chance this week.
I'm wondering the same thing myself. He wants balance as much as possible to help protect the QB with play-action, and he thinks it's the best way to function playing in a cold climate. But like you I question whether he has the personnel, mainly at TE, to play that way this season. The current receiver-heavy stuff and using the short passing game as an extension of the run game appears to be helping Aaron Rodgers. It might not be the ideal way to play, but you have to play the cards you're dealt. We'll just have to see how the receiver-heavy stuff does until the RBs come back, and then what McCarthy does.
Here's another perspective. I know New England brings a lot of guys in during the season, but they let go a lot of those guys too. I also think there were some similarities between Thompson cutting Sitton and Belichick this week trading a guy a lot of people thought was his most talented defensive player (Jamie Collins). I don't know what the reaction of New England's fan base has been to that move.
Yeah, I did, that jumped out last week. Now I did notice that on one of them it was a touchdown pass to somebody else in the red zone, and the guy covering Nelson grabbed him by his facemask and threw him to the ground with no penalty. But yeah, he was on the ground a lot last week.
Not trading up, no. The cost is too, the risk too great. If the guy is only OK or a bust, you've wasted two picks, not just one. But I'd think RB will be among the highest priorities in the Packers' '17 draft.
Interesting question. Without having thought about it a lot or talked to any experts, I think he's already got a pretty decent argument. A couple more strong seasons would help him a lot. He doesn't have his dad's longevity and good health, but he's been more of an impact guy. His dad is borderline.
Packers were 4-for-4 last week, Rodgers was at his best in the red zone against the Falcons. He and Favre are both exceptional at slipping out of the pocket, usually to the right, and just sliding or drifting or running, depending on pursuit, until they find a throwing lane, and throwing an accurate dart on the run. Watch other games and see how many other QBs do that. It's not that many. A huge edge for the Packers for putting points on the board.
This is going to have to be it, always enjoy going overtime but have to get to other duties too, so time to go. As to the question, from what I can tell many teams, including the Packers, rarely say how long a guy will be out, and when they do they usually understate it. I think they do it for competitive reasons, so opponents think a guy might be back, and maybe also to keep the player optimistic and of the mind-set to get back ASAP. The Packers like to say they're conservative, and maybe they're a tad more conservative than some other teams, but in reality I doubt there's much difference. They're trying to get guys back on the field as fast as they can. Now, the doctors have an obligation to the patient, and I think the Packers' medical staff takes that obligation seriously. But as in other things, I'll be if you followed a different team you might be thinking the same thing about that team. OK, that does it. Thanks everybody for coming by, much appreciated, great questions. Still a lot of season to play. Next week you get to chat with Bob McGinn, so take advantage of that. Take care everybody, we'll talk soon.