I'd think so. I guess if I had to bet, I'd bet on Kizer to beat him out for the No. 2 job, but that's not a given. The Packers didn't draft a developmental QB for the No. 3. I still wouldn't think they'd keep both, but I guess you can't rule it out.
They're also a really good team that has an elite QB and had a fantastic draft last year. If Davenport helps them as a rookie they could go far.
That is the ideal scenario, but that window is only for a couple years, and it doesn't work unless that QB is really good early in his career. I guess you'd argue that the extra money allowed the Eagles to sign Foles, and he won the Super Bowl. But I'd guess that in five years this SB win is going to look like an anomaly or Foles is going to end up being better than most of us knew. The Rams are kind of going for it, but that only has a chance of working because Goff is starting to play better (and I still wonder how much Gurley has to do with his success). But look at all the teams that have young QBs that aren't doing anything, teams like Tampa Bay. That young QB has to perform well early for that to generally have a chance to work. And finding guys like that is hard, because those are the guys that end up being top players and get the huge contracts. No, those contracts for the top QBs are going to keep rising, because those guys give you the best chance to win week in and week out, season in and season out.
That's how the Packers see it. I still don't think I'd ever draft a long-snapper, I'd rather take a flier on an every-down position. But to some degree, we're kind of splitting hairs because it is a seventh-round pick.
They definitely need some return on the investments, because the Rollins-Randall draft is killing them right now and has left the CB position thin and put them in position to use the first two picks at that position for the second time in four years. They've got a ways to go to be one of the best CB units in the league.
Bulaga had ACL surgery in early-mid November. It's about 10 months from then to the opener. Bulaga may or may not even be ready to practice full time at 10 months. There's a good chance he'll be on PUP when camp starts, and if he's still on it at final cuts, which is a real possibility, then he has to miss about half the season. Now maybe he'll come in faster than that, but if I had to bet, I'd probably bet he'll miss the first half of the season. I guess if I were betting now, I'd bet on Murphy to start at RT and the draft pick Madison at RG. We'll get a chance to see if there's an update on Murphy (foot) and Spriggs (dislocated kneecap) at OTAs in a few weeks, if either is participating in practice. No idea on Amichia, we really don't get any feel for that until training camp.
The Packers already are in their offseason program -- it started April 16. I'm not positive on the details, but I think the first three weeks is strength and conditioning only, then there's two or three weeks of individual position work. I can't say for sure whether or not Rodgers can throw to those guys during the IPWs. then starting May 21 they have three weeks of non-padded practice, I think 10 practices total if I remember right.
Sounds like they did like him a lot coming out. He has a cannon arm, really good mobility for a big guy (230 pounds). But he went 4-8 in his last year at Notre Dame and 0-14 or whatever it was in his starts with Cleveland last year. The Browns clearly did not see him as a starting QB for the present or future. So I'd think the odds on him being Rodgers' successor are slim. I mean, you never know, but I'm highly, highly skeptical.
I'm guessing they'd go fourth and 15, not fourth and 10. Ten yards seems a little too easy for that situation. I wonder if they're going to all but eliminate the KO rule without eliminating it. Maybe move the kick up even five yards further and then allow the receiving to fair catch the ball and get it at the 25 if the catch is inside the 25 to protect against the short hang-time kickoffs (is college football going to that latter rule this year? I think it might be). That way most kickoffs would lead to starting at the 25, but the onsides kick is still in play. I'm just kind of spit balling here, but that was one of my first thoughts when I read about the changes they're considering making on the KO at the next owners meetings -- no running start at all for the cover guys, no two-man wedges. I wonder if they'll just keep tweaking the rules until most KOs aren't returned. Just a thought. That stat in the kickoff stories yesterday was eye-popping, I think it was the chances for a player getting a concussion are five times greater on kickoffs than other plays.
Really hard to know on Biegel. He revealed this offseason that last spring he had surgery on both feet (not just one, as we all thought). So he missed a lot of work from May through whenever he returned -- I think it was in October or early November. So maybe he'll make a big jump. I can't say he flashed much as a rusher last season, but it's hard to know how much the surgeries and recovery time took from him. So I can't give you a good answer on that. We really won't be able to tell much until camp.
He turns 38 in June, that's getting way up there for the NFL. I'm thinking the Packers won't be interested.
Thomas turns 29 this week. He's an outstanding player but might have only one or maybe two really good years left. So you have to decide if that's worth a first-round pick. That's a lot. Because of his age and that bad leg injury he had two years ago I'd have trouble giving up a first-rounder for him. A second? Maybe. First seems too rich.
I tend to agree on Montgomery, that's he's a WR, not RB, I don't mean on the fired part. He can do real running back stuff, but he's not a real running back. That was clear after we saw the rookie RBs last year, they were real running backs. We do have to take what coaches and GMs say with a grain of salt, sometimes they're telling the truth, sometimes not. So we'll have to see how they use Montgomery. But if I were them I'd have moved him back to slot receiver.
Good question, and I'm not sure. Injuries will hit, they always do, so that will test the depth. And there will be mistakes if the rookie CBs play a lot. Burks probably will have to contribute in the nickel to help the pass defense, because otherwise the Packers probably will be vulnerable at ILB. I'm curious to see how Pettine uses Jones. The talent should be better on D this year, that's for sure. Wilkerson, the rookie CBs, Jones going into his second year, Clark ascending, those should all be upgrades, Williams to help some at CB as long as he has some gas in the tank. Don't know if that will be enough to get them in the top 10 then. I still wonder about the pass rush. Counting on Perry and Matthews to stay healthy all season is asking for something that hasn't happened often. If either gets hurt, someone is going to have to come out of the woodwork.
Without knowing for sure, I'd seriously doubt the Kizer chemistry mattered. Maybe it told them that with a better QB he'd do better, and Rodgers is as good as it gets. Yes, Rodgers indisputably elevates the level of his receivers' play. I'm interested to find out what the thinks about having all these tall receivers once he gets to throw to them some on the practice field.
I'm guessing he'll be in the slot, that's usually where shorter CBs play, change of direction is especially important there because everything is a two-way go for slot receivers. But I don't know for sure. Teams like outside corners with speed to cover the deep routes, and Alexander is the Packers' fastest CB. There's always the chance they'd play Alexander outside and Williams in the slot because of concerns that at 35 Williams can't run as well as he used to and can cover better in short-area quickness stuff. Still, I'd bet they'll play in the slot. Rookie minicamp practice Friday is open, so we'll see where he lines up there, though where lines up at the OTAs with the full team there will be more telling.
Those talks could be going on as we speak. I guess my question is, if you're Denver would you take a fourth? I don't know a lot about Ray but I doubt I would. Even though they drafted Chubb, they might need him this year. Injuries are common in this league, and you can't have too many pass rushers. Just because they're not willing to pay Ray $9.2M in 2019 doesn't mean they think he can't play. But I have to think trading for him is something the Packers are looking into. They need to upgrade their rushing talent.any way they can.
OK, time's up, but thanks everyone for dropping by, many great questions as always, sorry I couldn't get to all or even most of them. The base, assuming Pettine still is a 3-4 base, I'm guessing will be Clark at nose, and Daniels at the 3 and Wilkerson at the 5. In the nickel it and dime it will be any two of those three as the inside rushers -- they're all good pass rushers. The outside rushers will be the guys who did that last year -- Matthews, Perry, Fackrell, Biegel, Gilbert, or who knows, maybe someone who's not now on the team. So that does it, keep checking back to PackersNews.com for news and stories from rookie minicamp this weekend. Until next time, take care everyone.