You have to live with growing pains, no question, and it can hurt you big time, as it did with Randall's blown coverage in that game. But you also can get a lot of improvement from Week 1 to Week 17 with rookies. San Francisco won its first Super Bowl with three rookie starters in the defensive backfield. I get your point, but with the cap and free agency, teams have to play some rookies, that's just the way it is. That said, I really though Gutekunst would sign a CB early in free agency.
Yeah, that probably would take a third rounder. Not sure I'd do it. They'd have to think he'll be a true, No. 1 cover guy.
I wouldn't think much, other than the influence he's had on Gutekunst's general thinking as his boss for the last decade-plus.
The scouts I talked really liked both those guys, so I wouldn't say either of them.
Maybe. I wonder if either him or James would interest Gutekunst in a move up.
I wouldn't think so. I'd still bet a lot of money that Rodgers signs a contract extension by August.
No but I'd think that's highly unlikely. That's just part of the risk of doing business in the NFL. If I'm Adams I'm not signing a deal like that.
I would not trade up from 14 for a guard, even one as talented as him.
He is. He's really fast (4.41) so he can cover ground. I have to think Pettine plans on playing him around the LOS much/most of the time.
I haven't heard anything to contradict it. Look, Rodgers is the most important person in that building, and it isn't even close. So they should want to make him feel fully invested and that everyone is on the same side and all that. He should have a say in game plans, which I'm sure he does. Like you, I see nothing wrong with giving him a heads up on the Van Pelt and Nelson moves, things that affect him so directly. I'm with you on that. I know you're not saying otherwise, but to be clear our Tom Silverstein was right last week when wrote that there needs to be a wall between the players and roster moves. As important as Rodgers is, Gutekunst has to make the roster moves he thinks are best for the team, even if it upsets the QB. That's the way it works. Brady, Brees, they've all been upset by moves their teams made. So giving him a heads up makes sense, but as for deciding on the roster moves, that's up to the coach and GM.
He would never, ever, ever share that publicly.
Not real good. Never say never, but I wouldn't be betting on that if I were them.
I did, asked five scouts about the outside rushers. All five had Chubb first. Four of the five had Davenport second and Landry third, the other had Landry second and Davenport third. That scout said that he really liked Landry's '16 tape -- Landry had an ankle injury last year. Quick get off and much more polished than Davenport. Sounds like Davenport has more all around athletic ability and power.
Big target, talented guy though not as good as he was three years ago. Clearly had a chemistry issue with Prescott. Playing with Rodgers could really help him. Also a volatile, emotional guy who could disrupt chemistry. Sounds like he wants to play in the NFC East, but it might not be his call. I'd have to think that if no one in that division wants him, the Packers would have to interest him because of the chance to play with a great QB. No idea how he'd feel about living during in the NFL's smallest city.
No question, there are many good reasons for not having a player be an influence on personnel decisions. A long-time player has emotional attachments to teammates, and being a GM requires making many decidedly unsentimental decisions. The reasons you cite as well. Am reading the book Collision Low Crossers by a reporter who embedded with the Jets for the '11 season. One interesting anecdote, not exactly to your point but similar: The GM gave Rex Ryan one seventh-round pick to take anyone he wanted. In all their draft work there was a receiver from Colorado -- I'm blanking on his name -- who was a close friend of Mark Sanchez's growing up. They Jets determined that he didn't have a draftable grade but that they'd try to sign him after the draft -- Sanchez was still young, and they wanted to do what they could to help make him comfortable. Well, Ryan decided to draft him even though everyone on the coaching and scouting staffs knew he didn't have a draftable grade, and that several players still on the board did. It did not go over well. Demoralizing to the coaches and scouts because the guy didn't earn getting drafted, it was done as a favor for Sanchez. Sent a bad message. Kind of gets to your point about the locker room, etc.
Not doing a full mock draft but will do a prediction on the Packers' first pick that will run the evening before the draft.
They do, I think they and the Ravens and maybe New England have the most compensatory picks since the system has been in place.
Here's some truth for you. When we first started doing these however many years ago, I didn't like it all, felt like it was a poor use of time. But I've come to like them and get a lot out of them, for a couple reasons. The biggest thing is, it helps keep a pulse on what the people who follow this team closely are thinking and wondering about. When a lot of you ask the same question, it's sends a strong message that this is important and interesting. You guys also think of things that i haven't considered, so there's a lot of good food for thought. There are also a lot of really good questions and observations. There are some questions and observations that are a little out there or over the top, but this is also a place for people to vent, so I get that. I know I like reading chats on subjects that I follow and that the journalist takes seriously, so I try to reciprocate. And I really do enjoy it, though it is a little like an inquisition sometimes because the questions come fast and hard and are all over the map and often make contradictory arguments -- one reader will argue that Capers is a disaster, the next that the defensive talent is terrible. I just hope you guys realize that this is a really gray world and I don't have many definitive answers. But I do enjoy the chats, and hope you do too. With that we have to call it a day. I'm sure I'll be doing another one next week, though day and time have yet to be determined. Thanks as always for coming by and sharing your thoughts and opinions, and until next week, take care.