Hey guys, welcome to today's chat. Thank you for joining me. I wondered the same thing, Steve. It was pretty clear after the first quarter or two that Jordy could not get open against Darius Slay, the Lions' top corner, and the success he did find came against zone coverage or on plays where he lined up in the slot. He did move to the slot pretty heavily for parts of the second half, but it wasn't as often as I would have guessed. We'll see what happens this week against Janoris Jenkins of the Giants. He's just as good if not better than Slay.
This is the position I'm most interested in for Sunday's game. I have no idea who will be healthy enough to play against the Giants aside from Gunter and Hyde. Randall, Rollins and Dorleant are all question marks. As for Hawkins, he made that one terrible mistake against the Lions and we haven't really seen him from scrimmage since then. The fact that Dorleant passed him almost immediately after coming back from IR gives you an idea of what the coaches think of Hawkins right now. He's low on their trust list.
There's no doubt Odell Beckham Jr. is going to be a difficult matchup for the Packers, especially if all their corners are banged up like I mentioned in the previous answer. But the Packers can take solace in this: They limited OBJ to five catches for 56 yards and a touchdown in the first meeting earlier this year. LaDarius Gunter did the job for most of the afternoon despite a significant speed disadvantage. I would imagine they follow a similar plan with Gunter on OBJ this week.
This is the second things I'm most interested in seeing aside from who plays cornerback. As I said on the radio this morning, I think Allison deserves to play more snaps than Cobb this weekend if both players are healthy. He brings a different dynamic to the offense and, to be honest, is more productive than what we saw from Cobb most of the year. However, I don't think that will come to fruition Sunday afternoon. If Cobb can play, I expect him to be on the field a good amount. The coaches really like him, and the quarterback does too. That's not to say Allison won't play at all, but I imagine his playing time goes down. I find it hard to believe they would bench Cobb, even if I think Allison is the better option right now.
I didn't realize that until now. Pretty interesting quirk. I bet you're right.
I would flip Cobb/Allison based on the explanation I gave two questions ago. But I think your order is what it should be moving forward.
I think the Giants' defense is definitely legitimate. Consider: They held the Cowboys to 19 points in their first meeting. They held the Saints to 13 points. Then, over the last month, they held the Cowboys, Redskins and Lions to 23 points — combined. That's crazy. Those three teams combined for 96 points against the Packers' defense. Think about that disparity.
Yes, technically they have other options. They could play Makinton Dorleant and Josh Hawkins alongside LaDarius Gunter and Micah Hyde, and that would give them four traditional corners for the dime package. But Dom Capers is going with his best players at this point in the season, and Dorleant/Hawkins are too inexperienced to be trusted. That's the gist I get based on how reps have been split so far.
I don't think he has stone hands. He made almost the exact same play in the 2015 season opener to beat the Bears in Chicago. He swooped underneath and intercepted Cutler to seal the win. You make some, you miss some when you're not a receiver. Stone hands is harsh.
They have two defensive backs on the practice squad: cornerback Herb Waters, who was a receiver until two months ago, or safety Jermaine Whitehead. I don't know if they will promote anyone -- that depends on the injuries to Randall and Dorleant -- but if they did, Whitehead would be my guess. He's been on the active roster before. Waters is probably too raw to play right now.
Unsportsmanlike conduct. The league outlawed dunking on the goal post a few years ago. Adams just didn't care, apparently.
I did not see Ripkowski carrying the ball that much. However, you can't argue with the production. He's averaging 4.4 yards per carry for the season and, perhaps most importantly, he has not fumbled. And that's another area worth discussing. Rodgers' interception-free streak has been remarkable, but how about the ball security lately, both by Rodgers and the skill players. It's been very impressive.
I don't have an MVP vote, but the five players I would consider are -- in no particular order -- Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Elliott, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan. I think you can make cases for all of them. I would guess Brady or Ryan takes it home.
Sorry guys, no injury updates yet. Mike McCarthy is scheduled to speak later this afternoon.
Somewhat of a frivolous exercise since we have no injury updates yet, but here's my guess: Gunter, Hyde, Burnett, Randall at corner. Brice and Clinton-Dix at safety. That's the dime package.
I was surprised Montgomery didn't carry the ball more prior to his foot/ankle/leg injury that sidelined him for a portion of the game. Only things I can think of are 1) coaches question his ball security because he's had fumble issues in the past 2) they think the performance against the Bears was more of an outlier than the norm or 3) they wanted the raw power of Ripkowski. Will be interesting to see who acts as the primary running back this weekend. The Giants are stout on defense. They held Ezekiel Elliott to 158 total yards in two games. Elliott ran for 157 against the Packers.
I know some people really hammer Brady for the Patriots going 3-1 without him, but personally that argument does nothing for me. Look at the margin of victory while he was gone compared to when he got back -- and yes, the 27-0 win over Houston is an outlier. The Patriots destroy teams with Brady. You don't see one team log consistent blowouts like that very often in the NFL, and the Patriots make it look routine. 35-17 against Cincinnati, 41-25 against the Bills, 26-10 against the Rams, 41-3 against the Jets, 35-14 against the Dolphins. I think Brady and Ryan are the top two candidates for MVP because they were consistently good all season in games that they played. The same can't be said for Rodgers. However, I do think your idea of Rodgers winning Offensive Player of the Year is a valid one. I could definitely see that.
I lean toward the latter, but you never know. Think about how much better Nick Perry has been this season compared to the rest of his career, and that's a guy who played high-level D1 football at USC. Janis made a huge jump from D2 to the NFL. Maybe he needs more time. The question is whether the Packers, or another team, are willing to give it. He's been much less influential on special teams this year as well. He's actually been fairly invisible on special teams.
Still good. They just shut down Washington, who torched the Packers, with their best corner Janoris Jenkins sitting out half the game. Jenkins, Eli Apple, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie are all good and safety Landon Collins is a fringe Defensive Player of the Y
Yes! This is very accurate. Montgomery is a willing blocker for sure, but he's just not that good. Ripkowski is their protection man. Astute observation, Tom.
Not sure if he's a lock, but he's right there. Le'Veon Bell and Cameron Wake are two names I've heard repeatedly, aside from Nelson.
That's all the time I have for you today. The locker room is about to open. See you guys in a couple weeks.