Dan442 wins for best comment of the chat. This is an EXCELLENT point, Dan. One that I was thinking about too last night. It's not enough that Mike McCarthy punted in a situation where it sure seemed like he should go for it. But McCarthy also appeared to lack foresight. If this is a four-down situation, you run on third-and-2! (Exclamation point probably unnecessary, but you get the idea.) First, you have two cracks to get 2 yards. Second, if you run on third down, then you've got a wide-open playbook on fourth down, because the defense is basically guessing at that point. Yeah, that lack of foresight might have been most troubling. Spot on, Dan.
Another great point. I thought at the time, and it later came to fruition, that Mason Crosby's missed 47 yarder might be big. Turned out to be the difference on the scoreboard, but it also helped limit the Packers early momentum. I didn't speak with Crosby after the game, so don't know what the reasoning was.
Clay Matthews becomes a free agent this spring, so that takes care of that. I could see Fackrel's emergence making Nick Perry expendable. But, really, it's about needing to get better and younger there, period. So the fact they're going to have to hit edge rusher hard in the draft might make Perry expendable, too.
I don't think this translates into the locker room, but don't blame you for not listening to Mike McCarthy at the podium. He's very good at saying nothing.
Sure, but I think we've already addressed Aaron Rodgers' shortcomings last night.
I mean, that would be a pure guess. I have no idea.
I hate the color rush. But I'm not a big uniform guy anyway.
It's probably not a must win, but it might be. It's very, very close. I'm going to say it's not a must win. But if they lose in Minnesota, they can't lose the rest of the season. Better to just take care of business than leave things up to chance.
If he's playing, he's healthy. That's the way football works.
Hey, Robert Tonyan had a great night for himself. That was a heck of a play he made on Aaron Rodgers' touchdown pass. He's not replacing Jimmy Graham's production.So i'd say it's definitely more curse than blessing.
Sure. There's virtue in keeping Mike McCarthy. His institutional experience. His track record. (He's got a good track record that would get him hired by another team in a hurry, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.) The uncertainty in finding someone better. But if the Packers are going to keep him, they have to extend him. Because it isn't good for anybody to have a lame-duck coach, and that's where McCarthy would be with 2019 the final year of his contract. And while they're at it, probably want to avoid another one-year extension, or else they're right back in this hot-seat boat again. Currently, it's really hard for me to see the Packers giving Mike McCarty a multi-year extension after this season. There's still time left, though, for that to change.
Yep. Think of it this way, too: they should've never lost in Detroit or Washington. If not for that, losing last night isn't so damaging. But, they did, and they're here at 4-5-1, not there at 7-3.
You can't really compare the two. Seattle with Russell Wilson is much different than Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers. The Seahawks identity, the way they are built, is to run the football. The Packers are built around Rodgers' right arm. That doesn't mean the Packers shouldn't run more; they obviously should. It's just that you can't compare these two teams in this situation.
Because the season is not over. Firing Mike McCarthy now would end the season. They're not getting better with an interim head coach. Let's not forget, the Packers top two candidates (heck, top three if you want to go include special teams coordinator Ron Zook), have all been fired themselves.
You could say that about a few passes last night.
Oh, the horror! Yeah, that wouldn't go over great with the locals, judging off about 99 percent of my interactions with fans.
All right, folks. That's a good place to stop today. Thanks to everyone for participating in our live chat. Until next time, take care everyone. And have a happy Thanksgiving.